They're missing the forest for the trees, right?

Right.

And that happens in spiritual life.

We need, we, spiritual life and what to speak of, I believe, you call it, like, religion, right?

It's so full of ritual.

It's so full of practices.

It's so full of etiquette.

It's so full of morality and ethics, and it's got,

you know, books and books of external things that are there for purpose, that are there

for the purpose of helping us go deeper into the internal thing, you know, but it's very common common it is very common that the external

things over that they kind of hide we get so caught up in the external things that

we can't even see the internal thing anymore and we begin to think that that's

all about the external things, right?

In the Vedic context, you know, doing the ritual properly, doing the intonation properly,

you know, you're not respecting me properly. You're supposed to do this. Hey, sit down over there.

Don't sit over there. Hey, stand up there. What are you? You know, it's like all the, it's not that the details aren't important, but, you know,

sometimes people will become cruel in the name of carrying out these externals when really it's all supposed to make us really soft-hearted and compassionate and kind.

Oh, now, Bhagavati

Vasudevaea.

Oh,

no

Bhagavati

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