Hey Kate, so someone in our Facebook group made a joke saying that you never finish books. So I'm just curious, have you finished any books lately?

So I believe the last audible ad was talking about blackout. And no, I haven't finished that one. I often don't finish books, but I don't feel bad because I'm just listening. I'm currently listening to a book on

emotional childhood neglect called Running on Empty. And if you guys sign up to audibletrial.com

slash seltzer squad, you can get your first month for free and listen to books haphazardly like

we do. The best part about listening to a book inaudible is like

it's kind of like a podcast. You can drop it at any time and pick it up anytime. So definitely use

our promo code and get your first month free. Hey squad, Natalie here, producer and editor for Seltzer Squad.

I'm just here to let you know that this week, unfortunately,

Kate and Jess had to take a week off, and there will not be a new episode this week.

However, we wanted to make sure you had some content, so we're trying something a little bit different. This is a classic episode, a vault episode, if you will, and hopefully this is

some of your first time listening to it. This is episode nine, the one where we talk about friends.

It released just about three years ago in January of 2019.

And hopefully, like I said, hopefully this is some of your first time listening to it.

Enjoy.

Welcome to Salsa Squad, the podcast about staying sober in the city with your host, Kate Sander and Jess Valentine.

Hey Kate. Hi, Jess. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. What do you want to talk about today?

Let's talk about friends. Yes, let's talk about friends. The show. No, friends. Actual friends.

In real life. I don't have any friends or no friends in real life, I guess. Yeah. Friendship in sobriety.

What should be a happy conversation is actually a big bummer?

It's a bummer at first, right?

I think so.

I think when you're getting sober for the first time.

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