to welcome everybody to a truly pop-up blessed episode of the H3 podcast. We are joined today by perhaps the most iconic figure in the H3 H3 universe,

eight years in the making, none other than Papa John himself and the studio. Welcome and thank you.

Thank you so I mean I am frankly I can't believe I'm sitting sitting across from you right now.

The feelings are mutual. So you you had mentioned to me that you you had thought of reaching out to me but the Papa John

uh cord directors or corporate were not we're not savvy. Yeah I've been wanting to talk with you for about eight years

you're hard to get older frankly but I gotta try to get myself available I don't know. Yeah but I think they're just a little more

conservative but I've always thought this would be a lot of fun. I hope I was right coming in. Yeah you'd be right it's gonna be great.

It's gonna be a piece of journey. Well now that you're no longer beholden to corporate. So are you in a way is this a big

middle finger to them now that we're doing this big bill. No not at all and I'm probably Papa John's

biggest fan you know I'm a even now I love pizza and I love people and the people at Papa John's

are the ones that made that company great you know you you build five thousand stores out of a

broom closet and you gotta do that with great people but no franchisees I love them

employees I love them and we're pulling for one I'm their biggest fans. We love the franchisees we hate

the board of directors. Is that right? I'll put the words in your mouth. I mean I won't put the words in your mouth

but I'll say it for all of us here those sons of bitches. But they gotta be scared that you're on here now.

I mean you've got documents with pizza literally pie charts. You've got a pie chart with a pie on it.

I don't know if it's the right word. I you know we we felt like some decisions being made the last

couple of years were not exactly in the best interest of the system. There's nothing that's happened

with Papa John's the last 20 or 30 months that wasn't predictable and it's not been good.

Would that be in said they're struggling and we're hoping that things get better and they'll pull themselves out of this mess.

Do you want to go back? Do you want to be the CEO on the directors? No I don't want to be CEO. You want to be back on the board?

No. No. Let's let it run its course. Let's see what happens. Let's see what's going to happen.

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