#174: Never Stop Iterating

Seeking Wisdom with David Cancel

Molly Sloan

Business, Entrepreneurship

5 • 610 Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Leo Tenenblat (Drift's Chief Product Officer) is back to talk with DC about iteration. Leo shares what iteration is like at Drift and how it compares to other companies he's worked at – from the big ones (like Salesforce where he drove the Einstein platform) to the small ones (like the startup he founded called AppMesh). DC discusses the difficulty of tying together marketing and product releases too tightly. They also touch on the importance of feedback loops and why product teams need to get as close to the customer as possible. Is this really just a veiled 1-on-1 meeting for DC and Leo? You can be the judge.

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0:00.0	Before we get to the show, did you know you can get more insights just like the ones you're listening to right here.
0:11.4	I'm seeking wisdom.
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0:16.2	It's called The One Thing at drift.com slash DC.
0:26.3	Okay. One Thing at Drift.com slash DC. Boom, we're back.
0:28.0	It is seeking wisdom, and I'm here with Leo.
0:30.3	Leo's chief product officer at Drift.
0:32.9	He is the brains behind the operations and the beauty.
0:36.2	And I'm not sure what I am in this operator. I wear hats well. My head was made for hats, right? Pretty good. So welcome back, Leo. What are we talking about today? I think we're talking about iteration. This is a veiled one-on-one where you want me to iterate and get faster. Look at this on double-branded.
0:54.8	I didn't even notice.
0:55.5	Look at the shirt.
0:57.2	And look at the homemade hat.
0:58.5	Now, to see both of these things, you have to subscribe to our YouTube.
1:02.3	Check this out on YouTube if you're listening on audio only.
1:05.6	Yeah, so we had notes about doing this episode.
1:08.4	And then Leo asked me, who comes up with the episode ideas?
1:12.2	And I said, not me. And he's like, this seems like a veiled one-on-one because we're talking
1:17.2	about iteration. Lail, have we been talking about iteration lately? Just a little. We've
1:23.4	been iterating on it. So the context for everyone listening is Leo joined Drift, coming from Salesforce, having gone from a thousand people when he first joined Salesforce.
1:35.6	Then he started his own company in between, came back to Salesforce.
1:39.3	By the time he left, it was 50,000 people.
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