174 - How Porn Can Influence the Desire to Transition, with Forrest

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6 • 961 Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2024

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Sasha and Stella sit down with Forrest, a young man whose journey through gender identity, pornography, and societal expectations lends a profound and complex quest for self-acceptance. A compelling conversation about Forrest's journey through transition and detransition, revealing how an innocent curiosity for cartoons spiraled into a full-scale porn addiction, leading to unhealthy behaviors and regrettable surgeries. Explore Forrest’s experiences with intense shame, his complicated relationship with sexual drives, and his time living with the ‘radical fairies’ in a trans commune.

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A few programming notes: As the result of some unexpected technical issues, Stella’s audio quality is poor and her video feed is limited, despite our best efforts in post production to rectify the issue.

In an effort to honor and respect Forrest’s story, we opted not to interrupt or steer the conversation into another direction for the sake of capturing premium content. We are releasing the full conversation as a special extended episode in lie of offering a bonus episode this week.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.
0:04.4	And I'm Sasha Ayyad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.
0:08.6	And this is Gender, a wider lens, a podcast dedicated to the shifting concepts around gender in our contemporary culture.
0:16.0	Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we seek to open up the discourse around this hot button issue.
0:25.0	Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.
0:30.0	Hey Stella, how's it going? It's going well. This was a very intense episode I think.
0:38.0	Of the many episodes we've done this one really stayed with me. I was thinking about it the day after I was
0:44.9	messaging you it was messaging the producer it's a it's a devastating story very very well worth
0:51.0	listening more than anything I think when people hear this they'll realize this is for a story who we're going to hear about is not easily categorized.
1:00.0	This is this is a complex story.
1:04.0	Yeah, there are so many debates right now about how to categorize different young people who are questioning their gender.
1:10.0	And I think as you said, this really blows all of those categories out of the
1:14.2	water as do many of these narratives and stories so you know today we talk about the
1:18.8	role that pornography played in forests identity development and of course accompanying that a sense of
1:26.4	intense shame a complicated relationship with his sexual drives and
1:31.2	desires and all of that of course got tangled into his trans identity.
1:36.1	He also talks about this interesting time where he lived with the radical fairies which apparently
1:42.0	is a trans commune that I had not heard of in between periods of
1:46.3	homelessness and I think the most shocking thing that you and I have been talking about after
1:52.1	we spoke to Forrest was that he was
1:54.2	ambivalent the whole way through and there were many moments where providers or
2:00.9	friends or loved ones could have stopped and said,
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