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The Natural State with Dr. Anthony Gustin

174: Dr. Scott Lyons - Addicted To Drama? How To Break the Cycle

The Natural State with Dr. Anthony Gustin

Dr. Anthony Gustin

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4.7 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Scott Lyons is a holistic psychologist and author of Addicted to Drama: Healing Dependency on Crisis and Chaos in Yourself and Others.

He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about why we shouldn’t dismiss the behavior of those who seem to thrive on drama as attention-seeking. Like any addiction, engaging in conflict may be a way of coping with deeper psychological issues and trauma.

As he explains, we all develop survival patterns during infancy in response to emotional or psychological wounding. We may become hypervigilant and chronically anxious about our external world, yet numb or unable to process what we feel internally.

So you’ll hear why becoming a “drama queen” may be the body’s way of seeking extreme experiences just to feel *something* again. To metabolize emotions stuck deep in our core identities.

But we can unlearn these behavior patterns, and Dr. Lyons shares a few helpful tips on how to do so.

In this episode, you’ll discover more about:

  • What it means to be addicted to drama

  • How pain and trauma manifest as chaos and chronic stress in our lives

  • How our caregivers during infancy influence how we regulate our emotions throughout life

  • Shifting patterns from our stress response cycle to truly satisfy our underlying emotional needs

  • Why understanding our identity formation may be the key to healing

  • The benefits of being in resonance with our emotions and how it improves our relationships with ourselves and others

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Natural State podcast. I am your host Dr. Anthony Guston. It is

0:10.2

my belief that the natural state of penny living organisms' health and that our artificial

0:14.5

habitat has forced us into having artificial health problems. This show is my attempt to

0:18.7

dive deep and learn about using nutrition, sleep, movement, relationships and more to help

0:23.8

you reclaim your natural state of health in a modern world and show you how to thrive

0:27.8

in an environment that's stacked against you. If you enjoyed today's show, you can find

0:31.3

out more details and information at Dr. Anthony Guston.com. Today I welcome Dr. Scott

0:37.8

Blinds to show his new book called Addicted to Drama. And we kind of dive into both his

0:43.5

story and also my story of dealing with mental and emotional health issues. If you've been

0:48.2

paying attention to any of the work I've been doing over the last couple of years, you've

0:51.0

never said I switched a lot of my focus from physical health management, of symptoms, tracking

0:55.3

things to the harder to pin down more nebulous emotional mental spiritual health, which is

1:01.8

hard to work with, hard to explain. But Scott has been training a bunch of different modalities

1:07.0

and is much more robust in his vocabulary to be able to explain these issues than I am.

1:13.0

So we get into a lot of how these things manifest emotional mental problems, how you can actually

1:18.0

work with them and what you can expect moving forward. So again, I dive in deep to my past

1:22.0

and some of my experience with this stuff. And so does Scott. He's super knowledgeable in the

1:26.3

space. Really great guys. Very clearly, he's the work to be able to, because he's got

1:30.8

Guntland and bring back his story to share with everybody else. So if you are, you know,

1:35.3

have maybe worked through some physical health issues and are looking for the next tranche

1:39.9

of things to kind of chew through and or the next step as I've seen a lot of people

1:44.2

because of the same thing myself. So tune in this one and I hope you enjoy.

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