173 - Why Are Trans Activists Rewriting History? with N3VLYNNN

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6 • 961 Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2024

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Sasha & Stella sit down with the creatively multifaceted and dynamically articulate artist N3VLYNNN, exploring the intersections of identity, creativity, expression and activism. Nevline's nuanced perspective on the trans movement's impact on black lesbians and the women's movement highlights the often overlooked and broader implications for identity and representation within the movement, and how these dynamics have evolved over time.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.
0:04.4	And I'm Sasha Ayyad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.
0:08.6	And this is Gender, a wider lens, a podcast dedicated to the shifting concepts around gender in our contemporary culture.
0:16.0	Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we seek to open up the discourse around this hot button issue.
0:25.0	Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.
0:31.0	Hi Stella.
0:32.0	Hi, Sasha, how's it going?
0:34.0	It's going well. How are you doing?
0:37.0	I'm in good form. I'm in good form these days, yeah.
0:40.0	Good. We had a great guest on today. It was a very interesting conversation. Went to areas that we don't often cover and I was so glad we did. We had Nevin on the show today and she was fascinating. She's an artist, She's a creative. She's a brilliant writer and
0:55.3	she also talks about identity and how the kind of trans movement more broadly has
1:01.2	impacted the lives of black lesbians and the women's
1:04.6	movement in general. Yeah and in this episode you know I got some insight that I
1:10.6	didn't have about the kind of history of the Black Lives Matter movement, way before anybody else was speaking about it.
1:17.3	She was very up on it and knowing what was going down and how that kind of mutated and moved into kind of the trans movement.
1:26.0	That was fascinating aspect that I didn't see coming.
1:29.0	Yeah, for sure. She also wrote this brilliant piece that I had read several weeks ago about
1:34.2	Polly Murray who was a really important figure. She was a black lesbian in the
1:37.8	civil rights movement and how a lot of recent activism around trans issues has kind of appropriated Polly Murray's story
1:46.7	and in the very revisionist history way that we've seen before, tried to rewrite her past and really people have misinterpreted aspects of her life
1:57.1	to fit today's narrative about her having been quoted trans man. So that was really important because I can only imagine you know if you are
2:05.9	the descendant of someone in this world whose work and legacy is so important It would be so awful to see their past
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