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Dear Bob and Sue: A National Parks Podcast

#173: Pinnacles National Park: Caves, Condors, and the High Peaks

Dear Bob and Sue: A National Parks Podcast

Matt and Karen Smith

Society & Culture, Nature, Personal Journals, Places & Travel, Science

5.01.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

We recently returned to Pinnacles National Park, a place we hadn’t visited since our first trip in 2013. Situated about 75 minutes south of Monterey, California, Pinnacles is known for its dramatic volcanic rock formations, remnants of a once 8,000-foot volcano. When we first visited, Pinnacles had just become a national park, and we stopped there as part of our journey to visit all the U.S. national parks. This time, we had a different reason to return. Karen wanted to explore one of the park’s talus caves. In this episode, we discuss our visit to the park, where we hiked into the lower portion of Bear Gulch Cave, then to Bear Gulch Reservoir, and finally into the high peaks. We also dive into the park’s fascinating geology, its history as a national monument established by Theodore Roosevelt, and the role of the Civilian Conservation Corps in building many of the trails and structures still used today. And of course, no visit to Pinnacles would be complete without talking about California condors. Pinnacles is the only national park that actively manages a condor release site, and we explain how these remarkable birds were brought back from the brink of extinction. If you’re planning a visit to Pinnacles, this episode is for you, as we also share practical tips to help you make the most of your time in the park. ----- Follow this link to join us on Patreon. And don't forget to check out our Substack account where you can subscribe for free to our weekly articles. You do not need to set up a Substack account to read our posts or subscribe to our weekly email. If you are already familiar with Substack, look us up at mattandkarensmith. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I got to say, I'll be on the record that of all the cave types, the Talas caves are my favorite because they're not really caves.

0:11.1

And they're not underground.

0:12.2

They're not a basement.

0:13.2

What do you call it a dimly lit basement?

0:14.8

Dimly lit humid basement.

0:16.4

Yeah.

0:26.0

This is the De Bob and Sue podcast.

0:30.0

Stories from our journey to all the U.S. national parks and other public lands.

0:31.1

I'm Matt Smith.

0:32.3

And I'm Karen Smith.

0:34.8

We're the authors of the Dear Bob and Sue series of books.

0:40.4

Today we're taking you to one of the lesser lesser known national parks, Pinnacles in California.

0:46.0

It may not be as famous as some of California's other national parks, but it has some unique features that you can only find in this particular park.

0:49.0

That's right, and we'll be telling you all about those, as well as the best time to go,

0:53.6

and some ways to work

0:55.3

this park into your California itinerary. Thanks for joining us today as we explore

1:00.5

Pinnacle's National Park. All right, we are excited to be talking about Pinnacles today.

1:13.5

And, you know, ever since we finished our quest to visit all the national parks, we've been going back to a lot of them to do the things we miss the first time around.

1:23.1

That's right.

1:23.7

We go back over and over again, don't we?

1:26.3

Yes, we do.

1:31.3

But one of the parks we had not been back to since our original visit was Pinnacle's National Park. And we just went back in October to kind of see it with fresh eyes. And it was very fun.

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