We're sending billions of dollars across the seas to other countries and dealing with their

problems, their internal problems and neglected ours in the process, the poverty, the homelessness,

the mental health crisis the education a fairly education

the unprecedented illegal immigration the corruption the corrupting

and interrogation of our culture and civil society as American.

Let's go.

Welcome to Citizen, we've got a special guest today, Mark Fisher. I think a lot of people probably have heard about you, but for those who have it give us a quick

bio well I'm the founder of Black Lives Matter Rhode Island and that's my

background in social justice activism currently I'm the founder and

executive director of BLM incorporated and we are located out of the DC area, DC, Maryland,

Virginia, we call it the DMV. That's my background. You know, it's a, BLM is a complex perspective because depending on what you want is what you're going to find and what you think is what's going to actually be.

But I'm here to create my own narrative. I've been saying that from, you know, the moment I created my organization to the moment I started

Standing in solidarity with J sixers to the moment I publicly endorsed Donald Trump. I've always considered my own

feelings my own feelings, my own thoughts, and my own way of doing things.

And that's how I'm going to continue to go. Okay, well let's unpack that a little bit.

One, I want to start, well since we're on the subject, let's just go ahead and I want to start well since we're on the subject

let's just go and get into it when you say your own faults I assume by that you

mean a wrongfully held ideology or something that you that has evolved for you

over time or something like that but explain it unpacked that little bit for me well I

said I said thoughts my own thoughts okay yeah yeah so right so what tell me about that then so

tell me the I guess the the presumption that you have because this is all life is a big science

experiment right like people people get so been out of shape about being right

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