You are listening to The Place We Find Ourselves podcast.

I'm Adam Young and I am very excited to be joined today by Stephanie Duncan Smith.

Stephanie, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks, Adam.

So good to be with you.

Why don't we start with the obvious relational connection?

We have a very interesting relationship. So we're going to talk about

a book that you wrote called Even After Everything. But will you tell our listeners how we know

each other? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. So we know each other because I acquired and edited Adam's book.

So he experienced me as an editor,

and I got to read his book before he got to read mine.

So, and it was an honor and a beautiful book,

and I'm celebrating its place in the world.

Thank you.

And you were a fantastic editor, had a great experience with you. The book is so much better because of your direction and editing of it. But what we want to talk about today is a book that you wrote because you're not just an editor. You're an editor by day, author by night. And you've written a book called Even After Everything, and the subtitle is the spiritual practice

of knowing the risks and loving anyway. So just say a little bit about, people know you're an editor,

but who you are, what you spend your time doing. And then we'll dive into your book. Yeah, I like that

description. I was thinking I should, I should, I should change my bio to editor by day,

writer by nap time would be a good, a good descriptor of especially this book. Yeah, so I,

I'm a senior editor now at Harper One, and I've spent time, I was at Baker

Books where I worked with Adam on his book previously and Zondervin and some others before that.

And I'm a, I'm a reader by passion and a writer by passion and an editor by profession.

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