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Hello and welcome to the Battleground podcast with me Saul David and Patrick Bishop.

In a PAC program, we speak to Colonel James Thurston, who since August 2023 has been commanding Operation Interflex, the UK-led training program for Ukrainian infantry soldiers. But first the news,

which this week has been dominated by the revelation from key Trump advisors that if the Donald

becomes president, he might threaten to cut weapons supplies to Ukraine as part of a plan to end the war.

So much for assurances from Mike Pompeo and others that he will surprise us

and support Ukraine to the hilt. Meanwhile in Britain, the Reform Party leader Nigel Farage has

doubled down on his unhelpful comments earlier this week that the quotes ever eastward expansion

of NATO and the EU had given Vladimir Putin a reason to justify

his invasion of Ukraine. He added that he was skeptical that Ukraine could ever win the war and that

as a result, Zelensky should sue for peace before all the country's young men are killed.

Better just explain for our non-British listeners who Farage is. Well, although he's

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