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🗓️ 5 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Sometimes the gospel is really difficult and the Lord asks us to make huge sacrifices. And Section 132 is a text that just illustrates that principle. |
| 0:08.7 | If you're having issues with this, you're normal. These verses can very easily be misread. |
| 0:14.7 | Verse 26 and Section 132 is the most abused passage in any scripture. |
| 0:27.5 | The wives are the world's leading experts on what it was like to deal with the complexities growing out of Section 132. |
| 0:34.4 | A spouse who engages in sin does not condemn a spouse who remains faithful to their covenants. |
| 0:41.8 | As long as you keep your covenants, you're going to be okay, regardless of what happens. Casey, anything controversial about Section 132? |
| 0:52.0 | Hello, Scott. Hello, Casey. We are back, and this is a big one. Well, this is a big one we approach with some fear and trepidation, correct? |
| 0:54.7 | Yeah, I've been side-eyeing this all year long, like, okay, I know Section 132 is coming. |
| 1:01.9 | How are we going to do this, Casey? |
| 1:03.4 | And I'm still wondering that as we begin the recording today, how are we going to handle this section? |
| 1:10.4 | I mean, somehow, Section 132 of the Doctrine of Covenants contains both some of the most |
| 1:17.1 | uplifting and illuminating of Joseph Smith's revelations, while simultaneously having some |
| 1:23.3 | of the most controversial and challenging revelations, all in one section, right? |
| 1:27.8 | You ain't just whistling Dixie there, man. So, yeah. |
| 1:31.6 | This is where we get, like, the only scriptural theological, like, explanation of |
| 1:36.0 | eternal marriage. It is so important, right? It is so important. It's laying down the possibility |
| 1:41.6 | of eternal marriage between husbands and wives. Huge, beautiful, amazing. |
| 1:45.9 | And just a couple verses later, we also learn of plural marriage, which is the most controversial |
| 1:52.2 | thing in our history. |
| 1:53.4 | It was controversial when it first came out, and it continues somehow to be controversial |
| 1:57.6 | even into our day. |
| 1:58.5 | And so both beautiful and perplexing all in one. |
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