Hey everyone. Welcome back to the show. I'm Meg Lafour. And I'm Lorian McKenna.

Today we're thrilled to be welcoming Adam Grant onto the show. Adam is an organizational psychologist and writer whose work focuses on the science of

motivation, generosity, rethinking, and potential. He is the author of five New York Times best selling

books, including his newest book Hidden Potential, which we'll be talking about today.

Adam's new book focuses on developing a better understanding of ourselves so that we can

unlock our own hidden potential to succeed at our highest level possible.

All right, so welcome to the show, Adam.

Thanks, Meg. I'm glad to be here.

Adam has agreed that before we launched into our conversation with him, we going to talk about our weeks or what we like to call

Adventures in screenwriting. Lorian how was your week? It was ups and downs like always, right? A lovely roller coaster. In terms of my writing, it's going well. I have a couple

projects and I have deadlines and pages do and working with great people. In terms of being a writer, I'm really noticing how much my belief systems, either true or not, help me or get in my way.

And so what I'm trying to do this week

is really notice when those things get in my way

when those stories pop up and just notice them.

I'm not trying to fix that, like I can't fix it today or

change it today or or this week but I can notice it and what that helps me do

is calm down so that I can stop that narrative from getting in my way so that I actually

stop writing. So like I have pages due this afternoon and the belief system is all convoluted I can't do it I won't be able to finish what if it sucks all this stuff so I'm trying to just stop and like well that's interesting I'm

noticing that I'm having a lot of this like I don't know what they are intrusive

thoughts or and then the noticing helps me take a breath in my brain and then I can keep going. But it's

helping me not be reactive in a way that that will get my way. So it's not, it's like

a whole train of like the belief system, getting the train of it and then it

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