171 Kent Fire and Rescue Service

The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast

BBC

News

4.8 • 627 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2021

⏱️ 16 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Paul Grimwood, a fire engineer at Kent Fire and Rescue Service, developed an alternative approach to firefighting in high rise buildings in 2008. The approach allowed incident commanders to assess which of four firefighting strategies - rescue, intervention, containment or evacuation - should be prioritised. Lawyers from the bereaved, survivors and residents of Grenfell Tower have questioned why the London Fire Brigade did not do the same.

Presenter / Producer: Kate Lamble Producers: Sharon Hemans and May Cameron Researcher: Nathan Gower Studio Mix: Gareth Jones

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast with me, Kate Lamble.
0:09.1	We've got a shorter episode this week because the inquiry only heard half a day of evidence from one witness.
0:14.3	Central to that evidence was the stay put strategy.
0:17.0	That's where people who ring 999 are told they should be safe to remain in their flat
0:20.7	unless they're directly affected by fire, heat or smoke.
0:24.7	Stay put relies on the idea that buildings should be designed
0:27.2	to stop a fire spreading from one compartment to another for at least 60 minutes.
0:31.9	Of course, at Grenfell, that's not what happened.
0:34.9	So let's just remind ourselves how important stay put was to the events at Grenfell Tower.
0:40.5	The first 999 call from Grenfell came in at 1254 in the morning.
0:45.5	Behavi, who lived in Flat 16 on the fourth floor, had woken up to find a fire in his kitchen.
0:50.7	Right, okay.
0:51.4	Quick, quick, quick.
0:52.6	They're on the way already.
0:54.3	Yes, I know it's burning, but they are on their way.
0:57.1	You've only just called as long as you're okay.
0:59.8	Yeah?
1:00.2	Okay.
1:01.1	Yes, you wait outside.
1:03.5	I'm outside.
1:04.3	I'm watching all set.
1:05.9	While Baha'ali Kibedi was told to leave his flat,
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.