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I've dream that that you were twisting

through seven suns of gold

and the gypsy was insisting

their story must be told

I came two in the morning

but I took it as a warning.

There you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everyone.

Welcome back to the Soberful podcast.

My name is Veronica Valley.

And my name is Chip Thomas. So today we are going to be

talking about the clean wine con and other ways that we rationalise our drinking. Before we get

started, I want to tell you about my Five pillars of sobriety program that is starting shortly.

You can still sign up if you go to soberful.com. It's my flagship program and it's based on my book

where we do a deep dive into building the foundation for Soberful Life. It's a three-month program.

We have three months of webinars and

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