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The Talk Show With John Gruber

170: ‘Kicking Dirt on Them While They’re on Fire’ With Ben Thompson

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2016

⏱️ 171 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Ben Thompson returns to the show. Topics include voice control with AirPods, how to get your entire music library onto an iPhone while using iCloud Music Library, Apple Watch durability, the Dash/App Store controversy, the disappointing and frustrating state of Siri and voice-driven AI assistants, Google's new Pixel phones and the strategy behind them, Snap's (née Snapchat) Spectacles (and why they're nothing like Google's ill-fated Glass), and more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Yeah, a hammering be one thing, but it's they're doing the like grinding like I don't know if it's like a saw or if it's like

0:06.1

Sanding or something and it's funny because I mean because so actually this this podcast is gonna have a different character than usual because

0:12.8

As as listeners have noted the vast usually when we record it's it's I would say morning

0:19.4

But it's more like new-nish your time and it's like middle of the night my time and I am usually drinking scotch, but now

0:26.8

But now it is it is morning my time and even in your time which means I'm drinking coffee and sparkling water

0:32.7

So my character may be different, but yes, we also have to put up with environmental noise

0:37.2

They've been doing it for a while now and I think I have gotten used to it

0:42.4

So I don't even it didn't even occur to me until I sat down like oh crap or forgot this stupid construction going on

0:47.4

So anyhow, that's a long-winded introduction to if there is weird grinding noises. I

0:51.4

I apologize. It's it's not me. It's the construction. I too and drinking coffee and sparkling water

1:00.5

You're gonna be up all night. Yeah, probably

1:06.7

What I

1:08.7

Speaking of serenity called well, I I have some follow-up here. I forgot this last week. I should have done it last week

1:15.2

Serenity and I two episodes ago. We're talking about my inability to I all I wanted to do it because I have a brand new

1:21.3

256 gigabyte

1:23.3

iPhone and one of the things I wanted to do is just put all of my music on it because my music library is

1:30.8

Let's see if I can find it here

1:34.3

Less than 25621 gigabytes. I have 4,000 songs 21 gigabytes. So you know, it's not that big but

1:42.8

You know big but but not that big

1:46.8

Easily fits on 256 megabyte

1:48.8

iPhone and that way just put it all over there and

1:52.5

Then I never have to worry I get on an airplane. I can be out in the sticks

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