17 – The Island of Dr. Corbeau
Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men
Jay Edidin & Miles Stokes
4.7 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 4 August 2014
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
In which we make our Comics Alliance debut, Cyclops makes a startling discovery, Carol Danvers joins the team (sort of), Chris Claremont calls out some bullshit, Havok still has terrible taste in hats, and Peter Corbeau gets his own theme music
Content note: In this episode, we spend a lot of time talking about a rape that occurs in a previous Avengers arc, the community and narrative response thereto, and the larger landscape and ethics of portrayals of sexual violence in superhero comics.
X-Plained
- Mystique’s mercurial alliances
- Rachel and Miles X-Plain the X-Men
- Uncanny X-Men #154-158
- Avengers Annual #10
- Bollywood Starjammers
- The dread Psi-Scream
- Shi’ar Fashion Technology
- Dr. Peter Corbeau (more) (again)
- Rogue
- Carol Danvers
- The Whole Marcus Thing
- Chris Claremont vs. rape culture
- Computers
- Gender politics of the Dark Phoenix Saga
Next week: Dracula!
Clarification, since we neglected to specify in the episode: Avengers #200 was written by James Shooter, George Pérez, Bob Layton, and David Michelinie; Avengers Annual #10 was written by Chris Claremont.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey Miles, what's on your mind? |
| 0:01.8 | Mystique. |
| 0:02.8 | No, I'm Rachel, although I could see where you'd be suspicious, what with the shape shifting |
| 0:05.9 | and all. |
| 0:06.9 | It really is the retcon that keeps on giving. |
| 0:08.2 | But no, I was thinking about where she falls on the hero to villain spectrum. |
| 0:11.3 | All over the place, Lady switched sides more than Sunfire. |
| 0:14.0 | Well, she started out as villain at least, right? Well, if you're talking order of appearance, yeah, but if you're talking |
| 0:18.6 | continuity, she teamed up with Destiny Wolverine and Time-Travelling Shadowcat and Rachel Summers to fight Nazis in the 40s. |
| 0:24.0 | Huh. |
| 0:25.0 | Okay, well, but then she was a Ms. Marvel villain. |
| 0:27.0 | Yeah, and then she made her way into the X-Men from there. |
| 0:29.0 | Right, with the Brotherhood of Evil mutants. |
| 0:31.0 | And then there was Freedom Force force which was antagonistic but also |
| 0:33.2 | government-sponsored kind of a precursor to X-factor which she also later joined after |
| 0:37.2 | saving the X-Men from the Shadow King in the universe for mojo. |
| 0:39.8 | Yeah and after that I think she killed Moirr and McTaggart and modified the legacy virus to kill humans. |
| 0:44.8 | Oh man, and then there was that weird arc where she infiltrated the X-Men |
| 0:47.7 | specifically to Cockblock Gambit, which is an honorable goal in her defense. |
| 0:51.9 | Can we just not talk about that like ever? |
| 0:54.5 | Anyway, didn't she actually join the X-Men right after that? |
| 0:57.1 | Yeah, but she betrayed them pretty much immediately |
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