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Uncharted with Hannah Fry

17. The Golden Spike

Uncharted with Hannah Fry

BBC

Science

4.8609 Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2024

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

At a conference in Mexico, one scientist’s outburst launches a global quest.

Hannah Fry follows a group of researchers on the hunt for a ‘golden spike’: the boundary, marking a shift into a dramatic new geological period dominated, not by volcanoes and asteroids, but the influence of humans.

From plastics and concrete to nuclear fallout, the data they uncover reveals a planet profoundly changed. But can these scientists persuade their colleagues - and the world?

Producer: Ilan Goodman Sound Designer: Jon Nicholls Story Editor: John Yorke

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.4

We're in a hotel conference room, Quernavaka, Mexico, in the year 2000.

0:13.2

And against the gentle patter of an academic presentation, one delegate is shifting irritably in his seat.

0:24.3

This is a meeting of Earth scientists, people who study the swirling interactions of ocean and air, rock and wind and tide and rain, and Paul

0:31.3

Crutson is getting cross. He's already a Nobel Prize winner, known for his breakthrough work on the ozone layer.

0:39.4

He's doing his best to listen, but the speakers are referring over and over again to something

0:44.8

called the Holocene, the geological time period stretching back about 12,000 years.

0:52.1

But Paul believes, Paul knows that the world is now radically different.

0:57.4

Talking as if it isn't is missing something fundamental, something really urgent.

1:03.5

He shoots up.

1:05.0

Stop saying the Holocene, he barks.

1:07.4

We're not in the Holocene anymore.

1:10.2

When a Nobel Prize winner intervenes, everybody listens.

1:14.7

But one attendee ventures cautiously,

1:17.0

if we're no longer in the Holocene, what period are we in?

1:22.6

What the people in this room could not have known then

1:25.5

was that this brief exchange would launch a global

1:29.0

quest, a quest which would reveal striking insights into our changing earth, a quest that would

1:36.2

end in maddening failure. I'm Hannah Fry, a mathematician who studies patterns in human behaviour.

1:45.2

And from BBC Radio 4, this is Uncharted, tales of data and discovery.

1:54.9

I first visited Crawford Lake in either 1984 or 85.

2:01.6

This is Francine McCarthy, a professor at Brock University in Canada.

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