Welcome to another episode of At the Table with Patrick Linconey, where we explore anything and everything having to do with teamwork, leadership, culture, and

other topics related to the world of work. I'm your host Pat Linconey,

and today I'm joined by a very special guest and a friend who

fits on this podcast perfectly. His name is Bobby Herrera and I like to describe him as the best

CEO you've never heard of which one day I'll have to change because when everybody's heard of you you'll no longer be that

But welcome Bobby. It's great to have you here. You are doing great work bad. It's great to be here. And you're here from the Pacific Northwest from your house in Portland.

Beautiful Portland.

That's right.

You were going to be in town, you stopped by.

We said we've got to have you on a podcast.

Because Bobby wrote a fantastic book called The Gift of Struggle.

And it's small, it's short, it's powerful.

And yes, if you're a parent thinking,

man, I have a child child I want to understand this this is the book to buy for them and to give them this would be a great Christmas present.

In fact I'm giving this book to all my kids I already had it I hadn't given it to him yet I'm gonna wrap it for him so I'm gonna get a

little extra there the gift of struggle and it's about your life and I want you to tell us

Bobby please tell us that the Reader's Digest version of how this all started. But not two Reader's Digest.

Go for it.

Well, writing a book was on my list, Pat. And through wonderful encouragement from people

like yourself.

I put together a collection of stories about my journey.

And one of the trends that I noticed was that every chapter in my journey had a thread that connected and that was that every struggle

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