You're listening to the savvy painter podcast episode number 17.

Welcome to the savvy painter podcast.

The podcast for artists who mean business.

Here's your host, and Trice Wood.

So are we friends on Facebook yet?

I don't think we are. I didn't, you know, I don't know why I didn't look for you on

Facebook, but let's let's be friends on Facebook.

Yeah, definitely.

So we'll do that.

And then, and do you have a, oh shoot, who's this now, somebody's at the door. Hang on just a second. Sorry.

Sure, no problem.

So, Ray's answering the door. I'm going to do a quick introduction. This is Ray Turner that I'm talking to.

Ray was an instructor at the Arts Center College of Design when I went there.

So this interview is going to be a little bit different because we

kind of spent the first couple minutes just getting caught up again and normally I have a list of questions

and a game plan for the interview but Ray and I just started talking, so this episode of the

Savvy Painter podcast is going to be a little bit different.

For the past several years, Ray has been working on a series of portraits called

population. It's an amazing body of work. These portraits are painted on glass and

then when he shows them at a gallery or a museum he has specific colors called out and the

gallery paints swatches of color on the wall which is the background of the painting.

It shows through the glass.

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