Hi guys, welcome to Adulting. This is the podcast what I tried to figure out, what affects

the way that we grew up as millennials and whether or not we are actually grown up at

whatever age we're at. And today I am joined by Campbell Kennyford.

Hi. So you guys might recognise Campbell from Channel 4's. It was on Channel 4's now.

Yeah Channel 4's. Okay Channel 4's Gender Quick, which was a programme all about people that have

different sexual identities or different gender identity or different sexual orientation.

And basically it was really eye-opening for me I guess because the really interesting part of

the show was at the beginning no one kind of knew what anyone's background was. Do you want to

elaborate a little bit more on kind of like the show? Yeah, so I did Gender Quick on Channel 4,

which you just said. So it was a two-part kind of like documentary slash reality series,

including a debate as well which took it to three episodes. And the premise of the show was kind

of having 11 millennials and young people on that are on different sides to gender spectrum

and sexuality. So with me I'm a transgender woman and then we had other people who are

transgender men, non-binary, gender fluid, gender queer, gay, bisexual lesbian. So I feel like

it explored the whole spectrum instead of just one second of it. So I know that things like

non-binary before hadn't ever been really shown on TV so that was quite refreshing.

Really interesting. And also it was interesting to see how like different people dealt with

different things because there was a transgender man who didn't want anyone to know that he'd

transitioned. Yes. Whereas like with you, are you happy to be called a transgender woman or

you just want to be called a woman? Obviously you want to be just called a woman. Yeah, ideally.

Yeah, I always say that I'm a woman first and transgender second because obviously trans

is always going to be a part of who I am and I am proud to be trans. However, I just do want to be

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