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So, moving on to... Oh, have you started the podcast early? Is that you opening it?

No, no, no, I'm just waiting till you finish whatever you're doing and I'm just going to say

moving on shall we do the podcast extras? Well, this is it. We've started. Hey, it's different.

That was Mark starting the podcast. You're having a conversation.

No, you start off for the conversation. Who's Robin?

I love the fact that you live in this world in which somehow to destroy the illusion

of the world of the listener mark where they don't know who Robin is.

We might know who he is because they know who he is because almost every week

we refer to the people you do. And you go, who's that?

Yes, because you're breaking the third wall.

Aren't you? It's the fourth wall.

We put the show together. You are breaking the third wall.

That's off to the side. Is that the side? That's like leaving to the side.

I'm breaking down the scenery. Yes, you are. You're making a hasty.

Your exit illusion is by a pair. We put the show on.

We engineer it. We edit the podcast.

We're just in people's heads.

On the subject of us being in people's heads, several people tweeted last week.

After we had a discussion, which I decided to detail at the time

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