I've heard, I don't know if this is true or not, but I've heard something by seeing the ocean,

it somehow burns your karma.

I don't know if this is true.

I don't know where I heard that from.

But I could understand, like, well, maybe, because you start to see yourself in perspective of the vastness of eternality.

And then you see yourself in a not a self-deprecating way, but a reality, which

is, I am so tiny. I am part of something much grander than myself. I am not the center,

which is the heart of materialism. I am the center. What do you think? I'm going with this.

I think you're saying quite a few things that are really interesting to me, Roggan.

First about that burning karma, I don't know where you got that one, but it makes sense to me.

Because when we speak a-

I don't know where I got it either.

Okay.

It wasn't a comment book.

Could have been.

Probably from Omar Chitricatah where I get a lot of my wisdom from.

Probably.

Good chance.

But because when we speak of karma, like when we read, you know, these, these sacred texts, you know, yoga and karma and Bhakti and all that.

Karma, you know, it speaks of karma in two ways. One way is that, you know, there's something, something happens to us. Like, as a result of our karma, you know, we, you know, we tend to kind of like boil it down into the most primitive ways, right? I hit someone over the head, then, you know, I'm going to get hit over my head, you know, it's something like that. And it's a fact that that's one aspect of karma, that your physical activities bring physical reactions in this world.

But a lot of what we read about karma actually has to do with how your mind becomes conditioned by

your actions as a result of your actions and it's a fact and you're sharing this just like

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