169. Taking on Russian propaganda

Battleground

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🗓️ 17 June 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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In a special bonus episode Patrick and Saul speak to Russian-American Ilya Nuzov, who is the Head of Eastern Europe and Central Asia Desk for the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH). Ilya and his team have submitted a Communication under Article 15 of the Rome Statute to the Office of the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), drawing the Court’s attention to the criminal nature of hate speech in Russian media that has fuelled international crimes in Ukraine, and seeking to compel the Prosecutor’s Office to apply for arrest warrants. If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - [email protected] Producer: James Hodgson X (Twitter): @PodBattleground Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:49.0	Well, on Friday's episode, we mentioned the fact that there's been pressure of another kind put on Moscow last week
0:54.6	by the International Federation for Human Rights, or FIHR, when it and other organizations,
1:01.0	including the Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group and the Center for Civil Liberties,
1:06.0	submitted a 100-page communication to the Office of the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court,
1:11.6	ICC, in the Hague, alleging that six Russian nationals have committed the crime against humanity
1:17.2	of persecution against Ukrainians in the form of hate speech.
1:21.1	Now, this is a completely original charge, never been made before, and what's particularly
1:25.4	significant about it is that it seeks to expose
1:27.9	the criminal nature of hate speech disseminated by Russian propagandists to highlight the role
1:32.8	of hate speech and the commission of other international crimes committed in Ukraine and to compel
1:38.4	the ICC to investigate these speech acts further. Now, to discuss the ramifications of all of this,
1:45.0	we're speaking to Ilya Knutsov, head of the International Justice Desk at the International Federation for Human Rights.
1:51.0	I better make it clear that Ilya is Russian-born. He later moved to America. Ilya, welcome to the
1:56.7	podcast. Thank you for having me. Well, can you start off by telling us how all this came about and who
2:02.2	are the Russian nationals that you've identified as propagandists responsible for this crime against
2:08.2	humanity? Well, I think a good starting point is going back to actually 10 years ago or so when
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