Me. Welcome to the You Are Not So Smart Podcast.

Episode 169. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, and do me. A few episodes back I interviewed Judd Brewer a neuroscientist who studies bad habits and instead of a structured

episode with prepared questions we just sort of talked and it was really

Neat I really liked how that episode turned out and the response to it was great as well and the end result was a freewheeling conversation about all sorts of weird things.

So I thought that would make for a neat new format for the show not not all the time but sometimes, and it would make for a repeating feature.

And I'm going to start that at NYU in this episode with Moira Dillon, a cognitive scientist who studies cognitive

well just cognitive everything but who is currently working on spatial reasoning

and abstract thought this episode and the two that follow will be similar in that I visited

NYU just to sit down and talk with some scientists there who are studying things I think fit

inside the format of the show, things I think you will find fascinating, and for all three of these interviews, we just let the conversations go wherever they happen to go.

I plan to do this more often in the future, Instead of having scientists come to a studio, for instance,

I'll go to their offices at their universities, see their work, see their labs,

and just talk about that and life in general and then render all that into

podcasts for you to enjoy and enjoy you will fair listener because this

conversation goes everywhere I'm sure you're going to enjoy it because we cover everything

from why and how brains create art, spatial domains, abstract thought, what the

mind is, subjective reality, objective reality, her crazy round

room where they do experiments, psychologistism, Elizabeth Spelke, linear perspective, nature versus nurture, is math real, what is innate, what is not, cave

paintings, how to communicate, how the brain renders 3D to 2D, back to 3D, back to 2D, back to 2D, back to 3D, back to 3D back to 2D back to 3D.

Language, bookstrapping of language by art, art bookstrapping language,

inferential models and more.

Also a note, as I sometimes have to say when you go out and get

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