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Mormon Stories Podcast

1685: Unraveling the Progressive Mormon Dream - Larissa & Jeff Kindred Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2022

⏱️ 144 minutes

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Summary

In this Part 2 of 3, we return to Jeff & Larissa's story. Now married, Larissa gives up her University Studies to help Jeff through Med school. They share their struggles with infertility, the adoption process, and adopting black children as orthodox Mormons.
Larissa faces difficulties in early motherhood and building resentment as they settle into traditional LDS gender roles. Larissa feels she is losing herself wrapped up in her husband's life, while at the same time trying to silence that part of her that is unhappy, seeing it as "wrong."
Larissa is called as a RS President, even as she becomes more vocally progressive/feminist and has hope for the Church to change, but it doesn't last.
Jeff realizes the Gospel can't fix Larissa's unhappiness as the root cause is Patriarchy. He serves in Bishoprics for 7 years before discovering more about Church history from the CES Letter, and Rough Stone Rolling, with the Gospel Topics Essays being the final straw.
Jeff & Larissa finally recognize the level of harm of systemic racism & sexism in Mormonism and no longer wish to be a part of it.
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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John

0:03.8

Delin. I'm here with my amazing partner, Margie. Hey, Margie. Hey. And we are here in part two

0:10.6

of another epic faith journey with an amazing couple, Jeff and Larissa Kindred. Hi guys.

0:16.8

Hi. Welcome back. Thanks. In part one, for those who missed it, pause, go back and watch

0:22.2

and listen to part one. We talked about Jeff's upbringing in Cottonwood Heights, Utah, going

0:28.1

to Brighton High School. He talked about an unfortunate, grume, Boy Scout experience. He

0:32.8

also talked about being a high school athlete, basketball, tennis, going on to snow and then

0:37.8

snow college and serving a mission and being AP and being kind of on the Mormon dream track.

0:45.4

Larissa's story is really important because she talked about growing up as a biracial Mormon

0:51.3

with great grandparents and grandparents and a dad who are all Japanese Americans and what

0:58.5

it was like growing up not only in a biracial Mormon home, in a biracial Asian home, but also

1:05.0

when divorce happened and there were socioeconomic struggles. But she had a wonderful story of her

1:10.6

doubling down as a Mormon. She's a dancer. She goes to Weiber, messes around a little bit,

1:17.5

but gets super serious and eventually meets. Explores. Explores. Meet her. Meet her, return to

1:25.0

AP missionary and pleases her Japanese grandmother mom by marrying a doctor and they start living

1:31.6

the dream and they get married in the temple. And that's where we left off. How's that for a

1:35.6

summary? That's perfect. That's good. So this episode, we're going to be talking about several

1:40.4

things. We're going to be talking about infertility. We're going to be talking about biracial adoption

1:45.5

in Mormonism, raising black kids in the Mormon church. And we're also going to start to talk about

1:53.4

gender roles. Lurus is feminist awakening maybe or at least their expiration and concern with

1:59.3

gender roles. And we'll see how far we get. And there's going to be a part three as well. But

2:03.6

without any further ado, guys, welcome back. All right. We're ready to get into this.

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