168. Why Trump Can't Win This War Alone

The Rest Is Politics: US

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🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Will Trump end the war with Iran? Will splits inside the White House force his hand? And, will US allies come to Trump's aid? Katty Kay is joined by veteran diplomat and President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, Richard Haas. Listen to “Becoming Trump”. Unpack how Donald Trump was made: hidden family history, New York legal battles, ruthless mentors, reality-TV reinvention, and his path to the White House. Sign up to listen here. Sign up to our free newsletter here Producer: Fiona Douglas, India Dunkley Video Editor: Kieron Leslie Social Producer: Charlie Johnson Senior Producer: Callum Hill Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producer: Tom Whiter Advertise with us: Partnerships@goalhanger.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:20.0	Like George here, who keeps things running during a Friday rush?
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0:34.6	A brand new drama based on the best-selling novel. They think they're better than us. Who do you think you are? I'm going to prove to them that they're wrong. She's punishing me. You destroyed my family. I will not rest until I've destroyed yours. A woman of substance on Channel 4 starts tonight at 9. Babe is gem. Just voice-noting you because I'm so busy. I can't even type right now. I'm working on that big presentation for my new launch. I'm making it on Canva Mobile like you suggested. And it's making everything iconic. So it's a bit noisy, babe's mards is going off. Anyways, I'm going to ping the presentation to you now so you can see what I mean.
1:15.6	Yeah, madame.
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1:24.6	Hello and welcome to The Rest Is politics US. I am Cathy Kay. Antony is swanning around California.
1:34.3	So today I am joined by veteran diplomat Richard Haas, who has worked in four American administrations,
1:42.5	including advising both Presidents Bush on their forays into the
1:47.7	Middle East. So I'm very excited to hear what you have to say about that, Richard. President
1:51.9	Emeritus for the Council on Foreign Relations, author of Substack, Home and Away. The list of titles
1:57.6	goes on, Richard, have I got them right? Have I done enough of a sales job? I think more than enough. You left out the tall and good-looking part, but other than that, you've got it exactly right. The embarrassment of riches. Anyway, we're very lucky to have Richard. Thank you for joining us today. We're going to talk about, obviously, the latest on the Iran War. And what I wanted to focus on was what the options are for the president.
2:20.3	Anthony and I have actually been hearing some pretty interesting things from the White House
2:23.3	about splits in the White House that are emerging. And we can talk about that. And then in the second
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