Well I'm back again with Father Dwight Longenecker. He and I spoke just a few weeks ago on church history and how ancient corrupt popes and the early church and the medieval church helps us understand our own time period with controversies surrounding the Papacy and the Curia and Rome. And this week he's back we're going to discuss the heresy of modernism, the definition of modernism, the history of Modernism, and is that category even useful

today?

Should we even be talking about Modernism and who is a Modernist?

It's kind of a confusing thing.

So, Boley Wagoneker, welcome back.

Thank you. It's good to talk to you.

Yes, now, this term modernism is kind of slippery.

You know, it's not like you say, oh, he's an Aryan and that means he denies the divinity of Jesus Christ

period modernism is a complicated heresy what would you say to someone who

says what is the modernist heresy well I, I think, first of all, we should get out of our mind that modernist simply means

that a modernist is in favor of everything which is modern, and an anti-modernist is in favor of being old-fashioned and like an Amish person and doesn't want to have modern technology and so forth.

That's not really the definition. Instead we're talking about a theological heresy, which has, well, I believe has really been

haunting the church in one form or another for the last 500 years. I've just

completed this, I'm just about to complete this 23 part series on the

history of the Catholic Church a podcast series called tribes and tragedies and

it's been interesting to me how the history of the church breaks into you could

break it into 500 year sort of sagas or eons and the last 500 years from the

16th century to our own day has been an age of revolution and an age in which the old

certainties philosophically and theologically and in society and church have all

been overturned and one of those is the philosophy of the early

Church and and really the medieval church which had a kind of integrated understanding of the supernatural

sacraments made sense because the whole world was charged with the glory of God.

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