#168: Surviving Dirty John - Debra Newell Part 2

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2019

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti continue their discussion with Debra Newell. We talk about Debra's exit strategy and give a voice to Cindi Vickers (nee Newell), Debra's sister, who was abused and shot dead by Billy, her husband, when she tried to leave him on March 8 1984.

#HerNameISDebraNewell

#HerNameWasCindiVickers

#DirtyJohn

#CoerciveControl

#Stalking

More Information about Coercive Control

https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/coercive-control/

Advice if you believe someone you know is being abused

https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/advice-if-you-believe-someone-else-is-being-abused/

Domestic Abuse, Stalking and Harassment and Honour Based Violence (DASH) Risk Model

https://www.dashriskchecklist.co.uk/v-dash/

Serial stalkers and abusers should be on a national register. If you agree please sign @laurarichards99 @paladinservice petition https://www.change.org/p/rt-hon-theresa-may-mp-create-a-stalker-s-register

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1:13.0	It is the chilling tale of blind love.
1:16.0	I was worried that John was going to kill me to try to get the money because I had married him.
1:22.0	And lies. The papers show that John has numerous names, numerous Social Security numbers.
1:29.0	I hand some ball little con man. He said I was a whore and a bitch and I was going to pay for what I did.
1:37.0	He was the most evil person I've ever met.
1:40.0	And a woman who fell for him. He got in my car, started it, and set it on fire.
1:46.0	Setting in motion a chain of events with deadly consequences.
1:51.0	At that point I realised I'm his latest victim.
1:57.0	Hi lovely listeners. Welcome to RealCrime Profile.
2:00.0	I'm Laura Richards, former criminal behavioural analyst, New Scotland Yard, and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.
2:07.0	And with me today in the studio is...
2:09.0	Lisa Z. Lisa Zambetti, casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds.
2:14.0	And it's such a shame that Jim can't be with us. His head long into a case.
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