All right, we got Brandon Ingram on the podcast tonight. We're going to talk about architecture second time. Second time he's been on the podcast. I was embarrassed because I said I wasn't on the first one, and he corrected me.

Yeah, if you guys don't follow him, there's very, I mean, there's a handful, but younger men and women who are doing traditional design, traditional architecture, who really know what they're doing, and he's right there at the top with anyone.

So definitely check out his work, draw some inspiration from it.

He's definitely somebody to keep your eyes on.

100% I probably text him once a week saying, can I get just a screenshot of the drawing?

I'll Venmo you.

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How are you?

Well, how are you guys doing good? I think I missed your first podcast, right? Did you?

Thanks. I don't think you did. I mean, that was like 12 years ago, it seemed like.

I definitely missed it was 12 years ago. You said that earlier today, and I don't.

There were at least three of you guys there, the time I fell over 12 years, but I think you were there.

Maybe it was someone else. Was it Matt from Ireland?

Yeah, it certainly wasn't intentional.

I thought it would have been more memorable than that.

I shouldn't have even said anything because now I'm just setting myself.

Well, Brandon, it's really nice to see you again. You were definitely there. I definitely was. I'm going to have to check it, but I definitely was.

Yeah, well, I was telling John was texting with John or DMing with John that I mean, it literally was probably was it four years ago.

I think it was probably four years ago and see amazing things that have happened between then and now.

I mean, not just professionally, but just with the way things are now, how crazy things are now versus how crazy things were then.

It's like a favorite world. It's like we're just a different world.

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