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Wisdom of the Sages

1673: The Opposite of Love is Illusion: Bhakti, Dharma, & Mandalas as Reality

Wisdom of the Sages

David Ramella

Hinduism, Religion & Spirituality

4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Rabindranath Tagore wrote that "Love is the only reality… the ultimate truth at the heart of creation." In this episode, Raghunath and Kaustubha explore why the opposite of love isn't hate but illusion, and how failing to see others as sparks of the divine disconnects us from reality itself. From Krishna's cosmic picnic mandala to Lord Jagannāth's worldwide Ratha Yatra, and even a few Roomba and Nutella detours, discover how Bhakti yoga reveals love as the center of all existence.

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Srimad Bhagavatam 10.13.1-8

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0:00.0

The way we usually get trained in what love is, is it's through pop songs, right?

0:05.1

That's what it is. And it's confusing. It's confusing to kids, I think. Actually, it's confusing to everybody.

0:13.1

It's like, uh, yeah, like love is a feeling and love comes and goes.

0:22.2

And sure love can feel like that, but that's seeing love is a sentiment.

0:27.2

No, I love her.

0:28.1

She's my soulmate.

0:29.0

And then I'm looking for a new soulmate.

0:31.6

But from a philosophical perspective, in the Bhakti perspective, love is way bigger.

0:35.8

It's not just an emotion.

0:38.0

It's the ultimate truth underneath everything.

0:43.1

In other words, if I'm not seeing with love that I'm not seeing reality, that's the lens.

0:49.6

I'm stuck in some illusion, illusion that we're all separate, illusion that people are just bodies,

0:56.0

illusion that there's something less than sacred sparks of the divine.

1:00.9

And if we walk into a room and I'm not feeling love towards people I see there, then I'm off.

1:06.5

I'm out of tune with truth.

1:08.5

Because the truth is every one of these people is a beautiful spark of Krishna's energy.

1:13.7

And Krishna is the reservoir, right?

1:16.7

Like a huge lake of the, he's the reservoir of the most, he's the most lovable being.

1:23.0

So to see reality as it is, is to see with love.

1:46.5

Right. I'm with you. Yeah. When you you walk into a room you got to be like oh we size people up and we put them on our love our our love hate meter and it's like oh this person that person oh that person and sometimes the love has just to do with their looks.

1:47.6

Like, who's she?

1:48.8

Who's he?

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