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The Rest Is Politics: Leading

167. Faith, Depression, and Finding Calm in the Chaos (Professor Mark Williams)

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

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News, Government, Politics

4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 22 December 2025

ā±ļø 67 minutes

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Summary

From Parliament to Prison, how can people find calm in chaotic environments? How does one cope with grief during the festive period? What are some successful ways to combat depression? Rory and Alastair are joined by clinical psychologist and ordained Minister, Mark Williams, to answer all these questions and more. Please note, this podcast episode contains some discussion of suicidal ideation. Please take care whilst listening. Gift The Rest Is Politics Plus this Christmas - give someone a whole year of Rory and Alastair’s miniseries, ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. Just go to https://therestispolitics.supportingcast.fm/gifts And of course, you can still join for yourself any time at ⁠therestispolitics.com For Leading listeners, there’s free access to the Wordsmith Academy - plus their report on the future of legal skills. Visit https://www.wordsmith.ai/politics Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Producer: Alice Horrell Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Head of Politics: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This episode is brought to you by Wordsmith. A. I mean, increasingly, of course, in all the

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taking out the more boring routine task so they can really use their expertise, their experience

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and their human judgment in the law. And it wasn't built in Silicon Valley. It was built like so many

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1:38.9

Welcome to the rest of this policy leading with me, Aleckel.

1:41.8

And with me, Rory Stewart. And this is a real treat for me.

1:46.2

We are interviewing Professor Mark Williams, who is somebody I first came to know through Parliament,

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