167 - Eliezer is Wrong. We’re NOT Going to Die with Robin Hanson
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🗓️ 17 April 2023
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
In this highly anticipated sequel to our 1st AI conversation with Eliezer Yudkowsky, we bring you a thought-provoking discussion with Robin Hanson, a professor of economics at George Mason University and a research associate at the Future of Humanity Institute of Oxford University.
Eliezer painted a chilling and grim picture of a future where AI ultimately kills us all. Robin is here to provide a different perspective.
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In this episode, we explore:
- Why Robin believes Eliezer is wrong and that we're not all going to die from an AI takeover. But will we potentially become their pets instead?
- The possibility of a civil war between multiple AIs and why it's more likely than being dominated by a single superintelligent AI.
- Robin's concerns about the regulation of AI and why he believes it's a greater threat than AI itself.
- A fascinating analogy: why Robin thinks alien civilizations might spread like cancer?
- Finally, we dive into the world of crypto and explore Robin's views on this rapidly evolving technology.
Whether you're an AI enthusiast, a crypto advocate, or just someone intrigued by the big-picture questions about humanity and its prospects, this episode is one you won't want to miss.
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Topics Covered
0:00 Intro
8:42 How Robin is Weird
10:00 Are We All Going to Die?
13:50 Eliezer’s Assumption
25:00 Intelligence, Humans, & Evolution
27:31 Eliezer Counter Point
32:00 Acceleration of Change
33:18 Comparing & Contrasting Eliezer’s Argument
35:45 A New Life Form
44:24 AI Improving Itself
47:04 Self Interested Acting Agent
49:56 Human Displacement?
55:56 Many AIs
1:00:18 Humans vs. Robots
1:04:14 Pause or Continue AI Innovation?
1:10:52 Quiet Civilization
1:14:28 Grabby Aliens
1:19:55 Are Humans Grabby?
1:27:29 Grabby Aliens Explained
1:36:16 Cancer
1:40:00 Robin’s Thoughts on Crypto
1:42:20 Closing & Disclaimers
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Resources:
Robin Hanson
https://twitter.com/robinhanson
Eliezer Yudkowsky on Bankless
https://www.bankless.com/159-were-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer-yudkowsky
What is the AI FOOM debate?
https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/the-hanson-yudkowsky-ai-foom-debate
Age of Em book - Robin Hanson
https://ageofem.com/
Grabby Aliens
https://grabbyaliens.com/
Kurzgesagt video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSf2h9_39I&t=1s
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| 0:00.0 | One of the most striking features of our world are the mechanisms we use to keep that piece |
| 0:04.7 | and the coordinate among all these divergent conflicting things. |
| 0:08.4 | And one of the moves that often AI people make to spend scenarios is just to assume that |
| 0:12.7 | AI's have none of that problem. |
| 0:15.6 | AI's do not need to coordinate. |
| 0:16.8 | They do not have conflicts between them. |
| 0:18.5 | They don't have internal conflicts. |
| 0:19.9 | They do not have any issues in how to organize and how to keep the piece between them. |
| 0:25.8 | None of that's a problem for AI's by assumption. |
| 0:28.1 | They're just these other things that has no such problems and then of course that leads |
| 0:32.0 | to scenarios like that they kill us all. |
| 0:36.7 | Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance |
| 0:41.2 | and also AI. |
| 0:42.2 | This is how to get started, how to get better, how to frontrun the opportunity. |
| 0:45.8 | This is Ryan Chan Adams. |
| 0:46.8 | I'm here with David Hoffman and we are here to help you become more bankless. |
| 0:50.6 | Guys, we promised another AI episode after episode with Ellie's, and here it is, here's |
| 0:55.7 | the sequel. |
| 0:56.7 | The last episode of Ellie's, or Kowski, we titled correctly, we're all going to die because |
| 1:02.2 | that's basically what he said. |
| 1:03.8 | I left that episode with a lot of misgivings, existential dread. |
| 1:08.6 | Yeah, existential dread and it was not good news in that episode and I was having a difficulty |
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