Is that not powerful? We are going to win this, and this dispensation will come off triumph.

This is a turning point in Joseph's life. He was naturally courageous. But when he comes out of

Liberty Jail, he's absolutely fearless. It prepared him for the martyrdom. I really believe that.

Hello, Scott. Hello, Casey.

We're here once again with another special episode of Voices of the Restoration, and this one focuses

on Liberty Jail, one of the most powerful episodes in the life of Joseph Smith.

So I'm pretty excited to talk about this.

100%. Yeah, in our previous episode, we talked about the letter, right? The letter that Joseph wrote or letters. We went through the revelations in a lot of detail, but what we didn't get to do was really lay out a lot of the context, maybe some particulars about the Mormon-Missary War, things about the Liberty Jail itself. And what we thought we do today is actually bring in one of the greatest, I think,

experts in the church on this case. I don't know anyone else who knows more about 1838, 39,

Latter-day Saints in Missouri, than Alex Baugh, our guest today. Do you? He even knows enough to

St. Missouri instead of Missouri, which you've corrected me several times on this, Alex.

That is the proper pronunciation according to the natives.

You've done everything from right about Liberty Jail to use ground penetrating radar at

Hans Mill.

Like, I just, there's not a site in Missouri that I talk about when I'm talking with people where I, where your name doesn't come up once or twice. So we're really glad you're with us. Hey, my pleasure. We just, you're so influential and grateful for all the people you're trying to help understand our history and our doctrine and our, the revelations. You're doing a great job. Just keep it up. Glad to be a part of it.

Yeah, this is our idea of a good time. This is an extension of our classrooms. And is it okay if I mentioned, too, that I was one of your students as an undergrad? Well, it does age me.

It ages you because I remember you also saying Mormonism is my life and being super enthusiastic talking

about even sitting in in stake conference and feeling the sense of participating in the history

of the church, which your enthusiasm just really, really inspired me. So thank you.

Look at how far you've come and from those student years. I wish I would have known Scott in his younger days. I would have been the rabble rouser, the troublemaker in your class. I would have been the one always pestering you with questions. And we like those guys too. I do remember one student saying, Brother Bob, we really like your lessons and presentations, but we really like it when you get off the subject. That might have been me. It might have been Casey. Well, we're going to try to do the opposite today. We want to keep you on task, on the subject. We want to dig deep into, you know, and try to pull as much out of you as we can today, Alex. And maybe before we do that, it might be good, Casey,

to read a little bio. Do we have a bio for Alex today? Yeah, I've got Alex's bio here, so I'll read it,

and then we'll dive in. So Alexander L. Baugh is a professor and former chair of the Department

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