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Wisdom of the Sages

1657: Is Krishna Immoral? Rumi, Krishna, & the Field Beyond Right & Wrong

Wisdom of the Sages

David Ramella

Hardcore, Yoga, Dharma, Kaustubhadas, Bhakti, Srimadbhagavatam, Wisdom, Bhagavadgita, Hinduism, Raghunath, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Punk, Raycappo

5970 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Rumi spoke of a field beyond right and wrong — and in Krishna’s playful pastimes we discover how breaking the rules can reveal the highest good.

How can Krishna, the Supreme Good, also be a thief, a liar, a womanizer, and even a killer? Drawing on Rumi’s mystical poetry and the Upanishadic vision of fullness, Raghunath and Kaustubha explore how Krishna’s so-called immorality reveals truths that transcend all dualities.

Join us as we uncover the paradox of divinity, where Krishna’s playful rascality leads us to the soul’s true resting place: beyond the world’s petty dualities, in the harmony of divine love.

Srimad Bhagavatam 10.8.25-31

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0:00.0

So my point is, when they look at Krishna and say, look, he had all these wives, he's a philanthropor, he's a thief, we say,

0:10.6

he's a liar.

0:11.4

If you're going to understand him, you have to come beyond the world of wrongdoing and right doing.

0:16.7

You won't understand his fullness.

0:19.0

You need to understand his fullness to understand what's going on here.

0:22.6

Right?

0:23.6

That this Krishna, when, you know what it's kind of like?

0:28.6

What?

0:29.6

It's like trying to explain, like you try to explain,

0:34.6

Krishna had 16,108 wives.

0:38.1

Krishna had unlimited gopy girlfriends.

0:42.7

But you don't understand who he is.

0:45.3

You brought him down to your level and you're judging him.

0:48.2

If you had three girlfriends go stupid, I'd be like, what the hell is your...

0:51.1

What's matter?

0:51.7

And you would be completely right in saying that.

0:53.5

But if I, if they were created of my own energy, and if I lived inside their heart, and if I had

1:02.2

none of the flaws of a normal human being, then there would be nothing wrong with it.

1:07.5

So we've just had nine cantos explaining who the supreme personality of Godhead is.

1:11.9

Exactly.

1:12.1

Now we're entering into a realm of, okay, we're going to take this one step further.

1:16.5

Right.

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