Welcome to Mormon book reviews or an evangelical encounter is the restoration.

I'm your host, Steven Pinecker and look who's in the house.

Johnny D. Welcome to the program. Who's in whose house?

That's what I'm saying. Actually, I'm in his house.

And we're doing a very special episode of Mormon book reviews.

And I want to thank you so much, John, for taking the time.

We were originally supposed to shoot this yesterday and scheduling conflicts got in the way with my airfare.

And you're you're traveling later today and you're taking the time to come on my program. That is so awesome.

Well, it's because you're awesome and cool and so loved and your dear friend.

And I'm a huge fan and supporter of the work you do.

And so why wouldn't I make time for you, brother Steven?

Yeah, well, a little over a year ago, I wouldn't have imagined any of this happening.

And and now you own this place basically.

I just I get embarrassed when I say that.

But you know, I was like, well, I went to Richard Bushman at the Mormon History Association.

I told him how well the channel was doing. And then I said, you know, if you ever want to come back on my program.

You're worn welcome to come on and you go, look at me and he says, well, this time you'd be doing me the favor.

I'm like, whoa.

I started blushing and I was like, okay, but now you're embarrassing me, Richard.

Nice guy. But yeah, that's really how far it's come, you know, and it's pretty wild.

But I don't really, I'm not here to talk about me. We did that for your show.

Okay. So we're going to talk about you.

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