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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

165: Unabridged Interview: Peter Enns and Jared Byas

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8555 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2024

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

This is our unabridged interview with Pete Enns and Jared Byas. “It was our curiosity about the Bible that is now leading to conclusions that are no longer welcome in these institutions.”Pete Enns and Jared Byas host The Bible for Normal People, a podcast which is loved by some, lambasted by others. They started it as a way to have honest conversations about the Bible, for folks both religious and non-religious -- conversations that cost them both previous jobs at religious institutions.In this episode, they discuss the complexity of the Bible, and what their work has taught them about courage, curiosity, humility, and the dangers of certainty. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The Sin of Certainty by Pete Enns How the Bible Actually Works by Pete Enns Love Matters More by Jared Byas The Bible for Normal People PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Amy-Jill Levine: A Jewish Take on Jesus Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See the World N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTubeFollow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTubeFollow Lee: Instagram | TwitterJoin our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Are you curious about the hidden side of everything? Then I have a podcast for you. I'm Stephen Dubner, host of Free Economics Radio. Each week we hear from some of the most fascinating scholars and thinkers as we tackle big topics like how whales became the face of environmental activism, how to succeed at failing, and whether public

0:21.7

transportation should be free. Go ahead. Listen to Freakonomics Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

0:29.9

Lacey Camp here. If you're enjoying this show, I'd love to tell you about a new podcast from

0:33.6

Tokens Media called The Subtext. Each week, I sit down with Savannah Locke, a self-admitted pop culture expert, and she

0:41.4

helps me catch up on everything I've missed, which given that I do not own a cell phone,

0:46.3

is quite a bit.

0:47.4

In fact, they're very pleased.

0:49.3

Savannah was very pleased to teach me about the fact that Taylor Swift had gotten engaged, about six weeks

0:56.1

after it happened.

0:57.2

So on the subtext, Savannah brings a pop culture moment, celebrity drama, internet debates

1:02.2

for our shows, and together we ask a deeper question.

1:05.6

Why does any of this actually matter?

1:08.0

What does it reveal about our culture, our theology, and the lives that we are

1:11.4

living online and in the public square? And how might we as Christians enjoy the world in ways

1:18.2

that reflect truth, beauty, and goodness? It's a conversation between someone who lives

1:22.6

very much on the internet and someone who lives a lot off of it. And that tension makes for surprisingly

1:29.2

meaningful dialogue. If you're looking for a place to begin, I'd suggest our recent episode on

1:34.3

the rival Super Bowl halftime shows, a fascinating conversation. So follow the subtext on

1:39.9

Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you listen, and join us as we look beneath the headlines and beyond

1:45.7

the obvious. Hey, friends, Lee Kemp here. We all need advice, but it's not always clear who to ask,

1:51.9

even in 2026, which is why I recommend checking out how to the longstanding advice show and

1:58.8

2026 Amby Award nominated Best Personal Growth Podcast.

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