This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So hello, everybody.

I am here with Robert Breedlove.

Robert was suggested to me on Twitter.

I kind of asked a question who people thought I should talk to in terms of crypto.

And his name kind of came up on top.

He is the host of the What Is Money show that tries to explain this Bitcoin to stuff. He has a

pass in finance and in crypto. And so it seems like he's the guy to go to. And he's already

told me that he thinks that there are ways to think about this and to understand

this in a symbolic way with a symbolic lens.

So I'm really looking forward to finally diving into Bitcoin and crypto with him.

Thanks, Jonathan.

Glad to be here.

It's my, it's great to meet you.

And I'm really looking forward because I have like, let me just say at the outset, which is that I have a,

I have a kind of suspicion about Bitcoin. And I can't explain. I can't totally explain it.

And it probably has to do with my experience, which I kind of related off camera before a little bit

with you, which is that I was involved. I wasn't involved. Someone that I trust

and that I respect set me up with a crypto account, which was called Steam. It was like this

attention, a coin. And then you kept telling me, you need to make sure you've got a, whatever

it's called, an account where you like an exchange, it got a wallet account and I didn't

know what he was talking about. So I just kind of followed the steps, set this thing up on quadringa.

And then I lost everything within a day, which because the CEO died, we're not even sure.

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