164. The Supreme Court's EPA Ruling: Is the Crisis of Climate a Crisis of Democracy?
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 15 July 2022
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
With the US Supreme Court's ruling on the EPA still sending shockwaves through some quarters of the climate community, we ask in our second special episode this week: is this a sign that the tide is turning against environmental regulation, or should we be careful not to mistake the tide for the current?
In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson take leave of UK politics (in the most part) and take a look across the ‘puddle’ at what many have described as the devastating ruling delivered by the US Supreme Court on the EPA’s power to regulate green house gas emissions.
We hear from two very special guests, Gina McCarthy former EPA administrator and now the first National Climate Advisor to the White House, and John Podesta, the founder and chair of the Board of Directors for the Center for American Progress, and former counselor to President Barack Obama.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrageant Optimism, I'm Tom Ravicana. |
| 0:15.9 | I'm Cristiana Pígetas. |
| 0:17.5 | And I'm Paul Bekinson. |
| 0:18.5 | Today we discuss the recent Supreme Court ruling removing the authority of the EPA to regulate |
| 0:23.8 | greenhouse gases from power plants. |
| 0:26.0 | We speak to two amazing guests first, Gina McCarthy, the first national climate adviser, |
| 0:31.6 | formerly the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency and President and CEO |
| 0:36.6 | of the Natural Resources Defence Council. |
| 0:39.4 | And we speak to John Podesta, founder and chair of the Centre for American Progress, |
| 0:44.2 | former councillor to President Barack Obama and former White House Chief of Staff to President |
| 0:49.5 | Bill Clinton. |
| 0:50.5 | Thanks for being here. |
| 0:56.8 | So this is the second of our two special episodes this week and the last one was fairly |
| 1:02.0 | somber given the chances of the next Conservative government in the UK not having climate and |
| 1:06.9 | energy in the same level of precedence as the previous one, but this conversation is even |
| 1:13.7 | more cause for outrage because as all listeners to this podcast will know, the Supreme Court |
| 1:19.4 | has gone and done that thing that we have been afraid for years that it would do. |
| 1:24.8 | And that is to curb the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency in the United States to regulate |
| 1:31.5 | and limit greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. |
| 1:34.4 | This came from a landmark ruling on June 30th and it was a six three majority led by Chief |
| 1:40.2 | Justice John Roberts in the case of West Virginia versus the EPA. |
| 1:45.8 | Now this deals a major blow to the Biden administration in its attempts to regulate greenhouse |
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