Hello everyone and welcome to the third episode in our five part setting yourself up for success

series. I'm Helen Tupper. I'm one half of your normal squiggly careers podcast team. The other half

Sarah is on holiday this week. So rather than be lonely and talk to myself, I have actually

invited five different people to talk to me about some of the skills we need most right now. So earlier in the week, I have actually invited five different people to talk to me about some of the

skills we need most right now. So earlier in the week, I talked to Marcus Buckingham about

strengths and Bianca Miller Cole about personal branding. And today, you're going to hear my

conversation with author Alex Sujung King Pang. And we're going to talk about the topic of

rest, as well as an author of multiple

books, including shorter, rest and the distraction addiction. Alex is also the founder of a

business called Strategy and Rest. And it's a consultancy that's developed and devoted to helping

companies and individuals harness the power of rest to shorten our work days

whilst we also stay focused and productive.

And honestly, as someone who struggles a bit with rest, I think I'm probably more likely to get

restless than have true rest. I found his perspective on deliberate rest really interesting.

And it's actually one of the first

questions I ask, so I won't give too much away on that. But over the 10 minutes of our conversation,

your hearers talk about topics like the Passion Paradox, which I found very interesting. Also,

the value of hobbies and the importance of naps. And we're running a competition to win

a signed copy of Alex's latest book

shorter. And you can get all the information on how to win that at the end of the podcast.

So just listen to the end for details on that. So let's get started.

Hello Alex and welcome to the podcast. Oh, thanks very much for having me, Helen.

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