I had a crisis in my life, actually, when my sister committed suicide, because one of the questions I asked is, how can I be happy in heaven if my sister is in hell?

But then I remembered what my father taught me that I can trust God for what I don't know because of what he's revealed to me that I do know.

Welcome to a special live episode of the Elisa Childers podcast where we equip Christians to identify the core beliefs of historic Christianity, discern its counterfeits, and then proclaim the gospel with clarity, kindness, and truth.

And the reason we're doing a special kind of surprise live episode today is because this is a message that I wanted to get out to my people immediately.

This episode will eventually go to audio platform.

So if you're listening to this on Google or iTunes, you can just know this conversation happened

a little bit before.

But I wanted to bring David on today because the Norm Geisler International Ministries has

produced a movie called Norm Geisler Not Qualified.

I want to make sure I get that.

I'll ask David when he comes on. But I had a chance to screen the movie. And to be honest with you, I didn't know what I was what to expect, but I was really blown away. I was moved and I really want to get this message out to you guys because this is a movie that you can show in your churches. And it's, it has to do with the legacy of Norm

Geisler, but it has to do with a lot more than that, which you'll see in a moment. But I'm

going to bring David on. David is Norm's son. So that's extra special. David, welcome. I've told

you this before, but your dad means a whole lot to me because I never actually got to meet your dad in person, but his influence in my life was really profound.

And so when I watched this movie, and I saved my reaction to be on the air because you said that, you know, you don't often get to talk to people who have

seen the movie and interact about it. So I'm going to give you my thoughts, but I want to give you a

chance to tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do. I know you're the president

and co-founder of Norm Geisler International Ministries. So what are you up to? What's the ministry

doing? Tell us a little bit about yourself in the ministry.

Well, I had the privilege, obviously, of learning apologetics when I was a little boy. And because of that, I didn't have any doubts about my faith. And so, but I've approached apologetics in a different way than my dad.

I've actually been more than an evangelist most of my life, but because I had the certainty about my faith, I didn't, I didn't have any of those doubts.

And so I was able to help other people.

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