Man, have I got a story for you? Where did this one even come from? Oh yeah, it was, it was Twitter. I got a

Twitter DM and this guy's like, hi, I'm Nathan. I'm like, okay. And he was like, yeah, I've done some

stuff and you might want to interview me. I should note right here that this episode has a lot

of swear words and I would say as for mature audiences.

So if you have some sensitive ears around you, I recommend listening to this one with headphones or whatever you need to do.

That's your warning. That's your graphic warning for this one.

So typically when someone DMs me and says, hey, you know, you should interview me for your show.

My first response, without even knowing anything about them is, can I see your police reports?

Because a lot of people who message me, they like want to be on the show for hacking something, but maybe they've never been caught.

And so I hate to glorify their actions, right? But even more so, it's probably true that their story isn't over yet. And it's just the

beginning. And I should probably check in with them in a few years to see how things are going.

But I also have CEOs message me and say, hey, I'd like to come on the show and tell you

about my product and how great everything is and how great we can

defend things and stuff. And so when I just immediately start by asking for a police report,

that cuts right through a lot of the small talk and gets right to the heart of what I'm looking for.

I want to know about the worst day of your life, the thing that happened that was just catastrophic to you.

And you probably don't even want to talk about that.

But with this guy, Nathan, I ask him for a police report.

He just starts sending me link after link, news reports and files and videos and photos and, yeah, indictments

and affidavits and all that stuff.

And it was piling up.

This story just kept growing.

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