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Sonner's voices that are joining me Joshua David McKenney and Eric Motika

co-creators and business runners of the pigeon doll empire. Yes

Thanks for having us. Oh, thanks for coming. Yeah, it's exciting. I'm so happy we ran into each other

I go the night not me too. That was such a great show. We all bumped into each other at the Jake Wesley Rogers show

Which was at the Trubidor which was amazing for so many reasons like we were talking about just before we started rolling

Seeing people again. Yeah, it's a whole new thing. It's it's hard to get rolling again

It's like how do you say hello to people? What do you talk about what are social graces anymore like you know right and like

I'm a big hugger so and I gave you a hug too

But as I was going to give you a hug I was like oh wait, is it does it I have to start constantly? Oh wait

Do they want to hug is it okay for me to hug like what it just all that stuff same right?

You know, I haven't I'm I just kind of have to apologize to people immediately

I'm like I'm sorry

I just don't even know how to do this anymore. So whatever I do just know that I care

You know and it's funny though because I think we all think oh well

We're the only ones feeling like that totally. I think the more we all talk about it the better

So that's a great point. Well, I've always had social anxiety

So I I appreciate this new world

Now did you did you find that when you were kind of keeping just to yourselves? Did you enjoy that?

Well, Eric and I already worked together and lived together. Yeah, and work out of the same spot

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