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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#164 — Cause & Effect

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

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🗓️ 5 August 2019

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Sam Harris speaks with Judea Pearl about his work on the mathematics of causality and artificial intelligence. They discuss how science has generally failed to understand causation, different levels of causal inference, counterfactuals, the foundations of knowledge, the nature of possibility, the illusion of free will, artificial intelligence, the nature of consciousness, and other topics.

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Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris.

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Okay, well, I'm recording this intro in the immediate aftermath of now two mass shootings.

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The one in El Paso, and it appears there was one in Dayton a few hours ago.

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Needless to say, social media is now a cesspool. I guess there are a few things I could say about

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this. I actually wrote a piece on my blog when I used to blog rather than podcast about six years

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ago in response to some jihadist violence. It really is the clearest articulation of what I

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have to say at moments like this. The conversation about atrocities of this kind, mass shootings,

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is generally so confused and it's so frustrating to see people talking past one another

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for political or otherwise emotional reasons that I don't know. I think I'll read the first part

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of this blog post just to put my argument in view in the clearest form and then maybe say a few

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things relevant to the current moment. This comes from a post titled No Ordinary Violence,

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which was published October 11th, 2013. A young man enters a public place, a school, a shopping

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mall, an airport, carrying a small arsenal. He begins killing people at random. He has no

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demands and no one is spared. Eventually the police arrive, and after an excruciating delay as

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they marshal their forces, the young man is brought down or arrested. This has happened many times

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