Hello, friends, and welcome to episode 162 of Just the Zoo of Us. This week, we're taking

our first voyage to the wild past with a special guest, ecologist, and history podcaster for

a postmortem of the dearly departed dodo. We discussed the unique traits that allowed

the dodo to thrive in its island home,

what went wrong for them when humans appeared, and why they left such big heavy footprints in our

hearts. Just the Zoo of Us presents The Do Do Do with Natalie Sabin.

Thank you. I'm I'm Hello, friends.

This is Ellen Weatherford.

Welcome to Just the Zoo of Us, your favorite animal review podcast. I am really

delighted this week to be talking to a friend who I've known for a while. I'm really excited to

finally get to actually talk to you. I'm surprised that this is the first time we've actually

spoken. This is Natalie Sabin. Say hi, Natalie. Hello. Thanks for having me. Finally. I know,

right? Thank you for coming on. Finally. I know, right?

Thank you for coming on.

I'm excited to talk about our animal.

We're taking our first ever trip through the time machine.

We've never talked about an extinct animal before.

So this will be really fun.

This won't be our last, but it will certainly be a fun first.

But before we talk about our extinct friend

this week, let's talk about our very alive and still extant human friend, Natalie. Natalie,

you do a history podcast, so you're coming at this from kind of a history sort of angle.

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