163: Part 2: Steve Kramer - FBI attorney who helped solve the Golden State Killer serial murder case using forensic genetic genealogy

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🗓️ 24 September 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Murph welcomes Steve Kramer, a retired FBI attorney with a rich background in law enforcement and legal practice. They discuss Kramer's journey into law, the significance of DNA in criminal investigations, and the evolution of genetic genealogy as an investigative tool. Steve Kramer discusses the intricate details of the Golden State Killer case, highlighting the evolution of the killer's crimes, the role of DNA and genetic genealogy in solving cold cases, and the emotional impact on victims and their families. He shares insights into the investigative process that led to the identification and arrest of Joseph DeAngelo, the Golden State Killer. Kramer talks about working in retirement to continue supporting genetic genealogy as a forensic investigative tool.

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0:50.0	That was a crash course of it.
0:55.0	And thank you for explaining that. I was telling Steve here between the episodes,
0:58.0	I have a very, very limited knowledge of DNA.
1:00.0	I'm fortunate that I know how to spell DNA and that may be as far as it goes. So your explanation made it a whole lot easier for me to understand
1:08.0	rather than doing research and trying to figure it out myself. But we want to get into the case now of the what's known as the
1:14.4	Golden State serial murderer.
1:17.0	Yeah, Golden State Killer.
1:18.8	So G.
1:19.8	And this is something that my partner and I talked about a few years ago when we first
1:24.4	started Game of Crimes here was to find somebody and there's so many fantastic stories out there
1:30.3	and guests that you can bring on the show here and it just worked out through
1:33.7	Seth through the introduction through Seth Webb to you to bring you on here and I love the fact that that's
1:39.6	what we're going to cover now so you're a division council working in the Los Angeles
1:44.6	field division. How how did the how did you find out about G.S. K? Did that peak your
1:49.6	interest? What what was it that you thought man that's something I want to take a look at?
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