#163: Is It Really R+ or Could It Actually Be R- (With a Cherry on Top)?

Drinking From the Toilet: Real dogs, Real training

Drinking from the Toilet: Real Dogs, Real Training

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🗓️ 15 August 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we discuss, can we use a tactile cue like leash pressure to train in an R+ framework or is it still just R- that we put a treat on top of to make us feel better?, putting food in the picture doesn’t necessarily make it positive reinforcement, so how can we tell what contingencies are really in play?, review what we mean by positive and negative reinforcement, an example of a situation that I thought I was training with R+ but now I’m realizing it’s really R-, despite my best intentions, questions I can ask myself (and my dog)-- am I escalating the cue or stimulus to get the behavior to happen?, do I have feelings about consequences should my dog not perform the behavior?, what happens if I apply that tactile stimulus in a different context outside of a training session?, what other behaviors - emotional behaviors and other behaviors - are happening at the same time or in this context? Are they behaviors otherwise associated with positive reinforcement? Or are they more consistent with escape/delay/avoidance?, can I use the cue (the tactile stimulus) to shape another behavior? (ala start button behaviors!)-- how to minimize the chance that a stimulus is functioning as an aversive by teaching the behavior first without that stimulus and then adding it as a cue second.

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0:00.0	When I worked at the vet clinic, people would bring their dogs in for a groom, for a bath,
0:05.2	maybe, you know, shave down, whatever. And when they would pick them up, the dog would be like
0:08.8	mouth open, you know, tongue-lawling, big eyes, awful energy, zooming around. And this, oh,
0:14.4	she just loves coming here to be groomed. And I'm thinking, or your dog believes she's narrowly
0:20.1	escaped death and is so thrilled that you finally come to rescue
0:22.7	or she's just really excited about it.
0:42.7	Hey there, fellow training nerds.
0:44.3	You're listening to drinking from the toilet.
0:50.0	If you like to geek out about combining the science of behavior with positive reinforcement philosophy in real life, you've come to the right place.
0:51.6	I'm your host, Hannah Branigan.
0:55.8	I'm a teacher, a trainer, a podcaster, and weirdly enough an author and the author of the book, Awesome Obedience, as well as its companion,
0:59.3	Awesome Obedience, the Field Guide, both of which are available from clickertraining.com.
1:03.9	This week we're talking about how to tell if you are really training something with positive
1:08.9	reinforcement could actually possibly be
1:11.8	negative reinforcement that has just some food thrown on top of it and maybe not even realize it.
1:18.3	This may seem like kind of an obvious non-question, but if you really think about it, and I have,
1:25.3	it's not always so clear cut. It's actually kind of interesting. And,
1:28.5	well, I get a little bit excited. We're going to dig into that very shortly. But before we do that,
1:33.0	I want to say thank you to Vala Pets for supporting this episode, along with these awesome folks
1:38.3	who are supporting this podcast on Patreon. So thank you to Jane J. Anya K., Paula B. Ellen L. And Tess S. Those are fun names to say. A little bit hard,
1:50.2	but also kind of fun. But anyways, I love you and your fun names. And if you are listening and are not
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