So hello, everybody. I am with Dr. Paula Boddington. Dr. Paula is a moral philosopher. You have seen her on my

channel before. We talked about AI. And we had such a great conversation. We thought it would

definitely be worth to continue thinking about AI. But she's also an expert on the ethical

quandaries relating to medicine and in terms of biological issues, let's say.

And so right now with all these things going on, I posted about this monkey man.

And then there's also the whole thing about AI, which is swirling and COVID, of course.

So we thought that we would talk about this in relation to storytelling and the kind of stories we tell about the things

we do in the world as humans.

This is Jonathan Peugeot.

Welcome to the symbolic world.

So Dr. Paula, thank you for coming again.

I'm really happy.

I know a lot of people really enjoyed our first conversation. And so you had something you wanted to start with. So let's go with that.

And then we'll see where it leads us. Yeah. Hi. It's really good to talk to you again. So yesterday,

yesterday, also I should maybe start off by saying happy St. George's Day. It's simply today today.

Okay, great. Yes. Wonderful.

Yeah. So yesterday on Twitter, I saw that somebody who had put up that meme from a conference of the Vatican using the kind of creation of Adam meme.

I wish it was a meme. It was an advertisement. Like, if it had only been a meme, it would have been better.

An advert for two hands touching, like, and even one had even, one side had even got the kind

of like, you know how Adam's really limp-risted? Yep. And in, and in surgical gloves, touching.

And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I just, it just shows you just how clueless people are about, and you reacted quite strongly to that.

Well, it just shows you just how clueless people are about what things refer to.

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