What's up everybody? This is Cortland from NDHackers.com and you're listening to the

EndieHackers podcast. On this show, I talked to the founders of profitable internet businesses,

and I try to get a sense of what it's like to be in their shoes. How do they get to where they are today?

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Today I'm talking to Rob Walling.

Rob came on the show about a year ago to discuss his almost two decades long journey

building and selling profitable online businesses

and culminating in the sale of drip, his latest company, to the tune of many millions of dollars.

Rob is also the founder of MicroConf, the world's largest conference for bootstrappers,

and more recently is the founder of Tiny Seed, the only startup accelerator for bootstrappers.

The way Tiny Seed works is Rob invests in a bunch of

companies who all joined together as a single cohort. And then over the course of a year, they

work together to build their companies and grow them into something bigger. I think it's a super

cool model. And Rob is particularly interesting to talk to you because as an investor, he gets to see

what works and what

doesn't work across a wide array of companies, whereas most people have on the podcast can only

really extrapolate from a sample size of one. They're only one person and they can only tell you

about their experiences. So I hope that you enjoy the episode. I think there's a lot to learn

from the perspective of an investor.

Last week, you told me that you have over 700 audiobooks in your Audible account. What does that say about you, Rob, and also how many of those books have you actually listened to?

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