I'm Alice and I'm Brett and this is the prosecutor's legal briefs. I'm your host, Alice, and I'm joined as always by my good, good

co-host Brett. So good, so good. Nothing but the best. Nothing but the best. But you're not really

what I'm referring to. You guys, today we have Be Amazing. Really no need for introduction, Jason Flom with us today. Jason, thank you so much for being

with us. Wow, that was a great introduction. No need for introduction. I mean, I said, let's keep it

brief. You kept it really brief, but I appreciate that. You know, the horrified thing, literally

sometimes I'll go and, you know, if I'm honored at something or something like that, and someone

will literally read my Wikipedia.

And by the time they're finished, I just want to crawl into a hole in the ground and hide because it's like, I mean, I'm not that I'm not proud of some of the things I've done or many of the things I've done or all the things I've done.

But, you know, it's like nobody needs to hear a book, right?

I deliver on my promises is all I say. You guys weren't with us when we were signing on.

No pun intended, you can.

I know, no pun intended, but for good.

I mean, there is so much we can expound on there.

I picked that adjective for a reason because,

Jason, my goodness, what an incredible career you've had and continue to have.

And I think one thread that I've really seen weed through all of it is you seeking good in so many

different industries and bringing your learnings from one industry to the next to the next.

And of course, you're most recent. I don't even know if it's recent. You've been in this space longer than most people have been alive who are, or listeners. You've been bringing a light to wrongful convictions and

also to stories that need a spotlight on them for good. And so I know that anyone can go

read your Wikipedia page, but we have the man, the myth, the legend right in front of us. And we'd love to hear a little bit just about, you know, how you got started and kind of your

origin story, what drives you and what led you ultimately to the podcast space. Yeah, it's funny

because if I was interviewing you guys, I'd ask the same question. But so the fact is I grew up

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